Tuesday, November 27, 2012

A good response to those who continue to denigrate the secession movements...

Parting Company

By Walter E. Williams

11/28/2012

 
For decades, it has been obvious that there are irreconcilable differences between Americans who want to control the lives of others and those who wish to be left alone. Which is the more peaceful solution: Americans using the brute force of government to beat liberty-minded people into submission or simply parting company? In a marriage, where vows are ignored and broken, divorce is the most peaceful solution. Similarly, our constitutional and human rights have been increasingly violated by a government instituted to protect them. Americans who support constitutional abrogation have no intention of mending their ways.

Since Barack Obama's re-election, hundreds of thousands of petitions for secession have reached the White House. Some people have argued that secession is unconstitutional, but there's absolutely nothing in the Constitution that prohibits it. What stops secession is the prospect of brute force by a mighty federal government, as witnessed by the costly War of 1861. Let's look at the secession issue.
At the 1787 constitutional convention, a proposal was made to allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison, the acknowledged father of our Constitution, rejected it, saying: "A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound."
On March 2, 1861, after seven states had seceded and two days before Abraham Lincoln's inauguration, Sen. James R. Doolittle of Wisconsin proposed a constitutional amendment that said, "No State or any part thereof, heretofore admitted or hereafter admitted into the Union, shall have the power to withdraw from the jurisdiction of the United States."
Several months earlier, Reps. Daniel E. Sickles of New York, Thomas B. Florence of Pennsylvania and Otis S. Ferry of Connecticut proposed a constitutional amendment to prohibit secession. Here's my no-brainer question: Would there have been any point to offering these amendments if secession were already unconstitutional?
On the eve of the War of 1861, even unionist politicians saw secession as a right of states. Rep. Jacob M. Kunkel of Maryland said, "Any attempt to preserve the Union between the States of this Confederacy by force would be impractical, and destructive of republican liberty."
The Northern Democratic and Republican parties favored allowing the South to secede in peace. Just about every major Northern newspaper editorialized in favor of the South's right to secede. New York Tribune (Feb. 5, 1860): "If tyranny and despotism justified the Revolution of 1776, then we do not see why it would not justify the secession of Five Millions of Southrons from the Federal Union in 1861." Detroit Free Press (Feb. 19, 1861): "An attempt to subjugate the seceded States, even if successful, could produce nothing but evil -- evil unmitigated in character and appalling in content." The New York Times (March 21, 1861): "There is growing sentiment throughout the North in favor of letting the Gulf States go."
There's more evidence seen at the time our Constitution was ratified. The ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said that they held the right to resume powers delegated, should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution would have never been ratified if states thought that they could not maintain their sovereignty.
The War of 1861 settled the issue of secession through brute force that cost 600,000 American lives. Americans celebrate Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, but H.L. Mencken correctly evaluated the speech, "It is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense." Lincoln said that the soldiers sacrificed their lives "to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people should not perish from the earth." Mencken says: "It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of people to govern themselves."
Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.
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Walter E. Williams

Dr. Williams serves on the faculty of George Mason University as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics and is the author of 'Race and Economics: How Much Can Be Blamed on Discrimination?' and 'Up from the Projects: An Autobiography.'
 

7 comments:

  1. Let them go...divide the "commnunity property" and have a no-fault break apart.

    I suggest the USA takes back all the roads and bridges, sewers, waste water facilities, potable water plants, public buildings, airports and coastal dockage...we can demo and crush the bricks, mortar and asphalt, and stript the metals...all these materials can be recycled and resued in the northern states.

    We can give back to secessionist states all the Federal Reserve Notes they paid in taxes.

    Call it even...

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  2. Coming from ex Yugoslavia i'am laughing my ass off at pathetic state of affairs in US and although i'm tempted to feel sorry for people who are about to get a historical lesson (in blood, again...) all i have to do is remember how arrogant and how overbearing some of US population can be. The only real problem i have with laughing my ass off is that some of the people (the good guys who have been barking up the tree of power and corruption but were/are ignored) will have to endure this shitstorm and some of them will die in the process.

    But for some (even some authors here on a site of a person trying to give you pearls but instead gets "smart" remarks or worse) i actually wholeheartedly hope you will have many sleepless nights from personal losses, misery and suffering. May you live long after this passes over to have time to reflect on your stupid ignorance and immorality which brought about sorrow for so many good people. May you suffer eternally.

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  3. Ja ću odmoriti mirno i sigurno znajući da žive u najvećoj nacije na svijetu ... zemlju da sam služio kao United States Marine i borio se za očuvanje ... Borila sam se za svoje pravo da imaju svoje mišljenje i izraziti ga, ja nisam kukavica-jastrebovi.

    Moj otac i moj djed i baka doselili iz Korčula u 1906.SAD nikad neće biti regulirano od strane maršala Tita ...

    Ne bojte se ... mi ćemo biti jači zbog trenutne rasprave ... samo slab i uplašen mali ...

    Dobar dan ...

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    1. English translation -

      I, my dog be the simple butt fart.

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    2. Actually a Croat emigrant whose grandparents moved from island of Korčula in 1906 and now he thinks he knows Yugoslav history and Tito and civil war during WWII in detail. Also his grandparents native language is rather poor, confusing sexes and not very good grammar. His main problem is that his catholic background and very filtered and one sided information gave skewered picture of what is right and wrong (in historical context) much like your honest republican fanatics who are basically good people with hearts and minds in right places but this goodness was exploited and are actually supporting the same evil that runs democrats. But slowly and surely people are seeing both parties for what they are...

      A za tebe jedan savjet: Preporučujem, da počneš brat i ućit možda je još vreme da te sretne pamet.

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    3. My Aunt Frana told me in 1969 the Yugoslav Republic would fail after Tito died. It did...but not right away, but it did fail. I am not a Catholic.

      My point to you in this discussion is this:

      The USA will not need or allow an iron-fisted leader to surface (like Josip Broz Tito or Sadaam Hussein) in order to quell or silence disagreeing political factions. No state willwithdraw from the USA...its press folly.

      In the USA we will find a way...without the blood you spoke of…we did that before as the writer of this article, Mr. Walter Williams stated happened in the “War of 1861” (the Civil War).

      The enemy of the republicans, the democrats and of our whole financial system are the monopolies.

      The monopolies suck money out of the circular flow of wealth which prevents it from being spent for goods and services multiple times, and from being levied for taxes multiple times...money is a means, bit and end, and therefore it must circulate, not once or twice, the many times for it to function properly.

      We need a National Divestiture Act to break a part the monopolies…to return competition to USA economy and in return the economy will recover its health and vitality.

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  4. Atlas Shrugged...and then rewrite the last paragraph...

    Please take some books you can find from places such as Zerohedge, TF metals, videos and information from comments there before it's too late. You come across as rather smart individual and much would be wasted if you don't take time to try to see more info on state of affairs and try to start thinking out of the box...


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